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..Continuing our hallway discussion before fourth hour today...

I pledge allegiance to the flag,
Of the United States of America,
And to the republic, for which it stands,
One nation, under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and justice for all.

Date: 2003-10-15 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enedniliel.livejournal.com
Seperate church and state. And be aware that there are other fucking religions in this country.

Date: 2003-10-15 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravensfeather.livejournal.com
>>One nation, under God<<

Actually, "one nation under God"... no comma. All together.
:)

We made it a point in FFA to make sure we said it like that, too. No pause between it...

Blah!
Krys

Date: 2003-10-15 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravensfeather.livejournal.com
>>And be aware...<<

I am aware. And I still agree with "one nation under God."

And I like your icon, by the way.
~Krystal

Date: 2003-10-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quique.livejournal.com
sometimes I'm glad we're so underdeveloped we have nothing that even comes close to the pledge of allegiance.

Date: 2003-10-15 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phenomous.livejournal.com
If only there were some sort of word that meant the same as 'blame' but rhymed with 'Ike' ^_^

Date: 2003-10-15 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adellahale.livejournal.com
personally i have no problem getting rid of the under god bit... for two reasons really... 1) well i'm not sure he's out there so it seems kinda pointless to have it, and 2) who really wants to be *under* God... that makes me feel like i'm the toile God sits on... or the person on the bottom in a sexual act... and I bet God isn't light weight, so either one of those would be uncomfortable... and really do we want to suggest our nation is the toilet God sits on or does the nasty on top of? Nah... I'd really rather not.

Date: 2003-10-16 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] munkieluv.livejournal.com
So what's next? Wasting money to analyze this to see how many people it offends and then wasting more money to take "In God We Trust" off of every bit of currency we have? C'mon people. Do we not have anything else to do? It can be anyones God. It doesn't specify. Believe in whatever you want but leave something that has been around forever alone. Or don't say it. Pledge and leave that part out of your own pledge.

Date: 2003-10-16 02:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com
You say it can be "anyone's god", but what if people believe in more than one god, or no god at all? Do they just pretend?

Date: 2003-10-17 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] munkieluv.livejournal.com
Pretnd what? How often are people saying this pledge? Why can't those people that believe in more than one God just say "Under Gods..."? Does it really OFFEND said people? I mean seriously. Is that one line in something that that is hardly said really so offensive that it needs all this debate? It's not like it's a derogatory remark. It's not forcing you to believe in anything. It's not saying "if you say this pledge, you must be a religious fanatic".

Its because it was a majority of people that believe in God that this was put into the pledge to the flag. Our flag represents our country and the founding fathers of this country that happened to believe in God. In this country, majority rules, does it not? To take that out is taking out a part of history that the founders of our country believed in. Just because we don't like the outcome of something in history, do we just change it because the times have changed? Especially something like this. I understand why there is this debate, I just think it's something that isn't worthy of debating. Whether I believe in God or not, it's not offensive to me. And if it were I just won't say that part of the pledge. Simple.

Date: 2003-10-19 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com
If I believed in more than one God, then I'm pretty sure that yes, it would offend me that the government forced my public school to recite a pledge every day that promotes monotheism.

This country was founded to give rights to everyone - especially those with minority views. It sickens me that people ignore certain people's feelings just because they're not part of the majority. I think the founding fathers would be disgusted with our utter lack of disrespect for our fellow citizens.

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